Intersection of Wellness and Technology | Talks at Google

Intersection of Wellness and Technology | Talks at Google

welcome to our first wellness day we've never had a wellness day here so we've got the vendor fare out in the courtyard you'll probably get to check out we've got this talk so really happy that you're here this panel is the intersection of wellness and technology so we've got a bunch of experts here to talk to us about it we're a tech company we're very concerned about that intersection as you know Google is a leader in workplace health and wellness we have our G Fit program we have nutrition we have massage therapy but we also recognize that we have a lot to learn so that is why we have these folks here today I'm gonna introduce them and then we'll ask some questions we'll leave time for audience questions at the end this is also being filmed so it'll be on our youtube channel in a few weeks and y'all can post it and watch it then yeah so let's get started so first we're gonna try to get all the names right the pronunciations so Andy Patrick did I mail it so Andy's the founder of CrossFit LA and the whole life challenge which is really amazing my husband and I did it and I highly recommend everyone do it's life-changing and then we've got dice edik line dice is a yoga instructor at Yoga glow and if I might say a world-class handstand master for taking his videos for years and I'm a really big fan y'all have got to check about you will your mind will be blown Kim Whitman who's the founder and executive producer of yoga today it's a beautiful site of yoga classes filmed and nature and so everyone should definitely check that out Jeff Edgar it's the MD and medical director at parsley Health is a really cool company it's redefining medical care with a root cause whole person approach and focus on data technology and real doctor-patient relationships which we all want and appreciate and then lastly Tom Freeman is the Learning and Development Manager at headspace headspace is out in the courtyard you're probably also familiar with it meditation app I can personally attest to the effectiveness of that app it's really great and Googlers get a really good discount so check it out put in a plug for all y'all so let's get started I'm gonna just ask some questions we'll go down the line and then leave time for y'all to ask questions as well so just briefly we'll just go down the line starting with Andy tell us briefly what you into the wellness profession what factors motivated you to get to where you are today it's an interesting question we were talking about my varied background hmm so I mean I got to go kind of quick cuz it's very varied I was kind of forcing to drive as a Marine back in the early 90s and I had to get in shape to be in the Marines and I didn't really realize at the time but I was it was my first introduction to being a fitness coach I was responsible for a platoon of men going going to war and me had to make sure that they were fit and ready to go and lo and behold that became my profession four years after leaving the Marines I I started racing I started doing professional adventure racing sponsored by Red Bull traffic it's like a it's like triathlon meets I don't know extreme sports we would rock climb and kayaking and mountain bike and you know 3 4 or 500 mile races and people started to ask me what I was going to be in shape and I would tell him what I did and then they was well can you can you can you write a program for me or can you train me and that's how I got my first clients and I became a fitness coach and then and I started going down the road of more holistic I worked with Paul check at the Czech Institute in San Diego and I and I started go to go down the road toward being a a wellness and a corrective exercise specialist and then I discovered CrossFit and it kind of changed my the context of my training because I started having so much fun with workouts again and training again I open up CrossFit Los Angeles which was one of the first 10 CrossFit's in the world and was really responsible in the beginning of that movement for develop delivering a lot of the publicity for the movement for CrossFit around the world even though I just learned a little gym and Santa Monica and the whole life challenge came out of my desires coach to to effect what people the choices people made in their everyday life outside the gym because if they could do they could come see me two three four times a week at the gym but what would they do when they weren't at the gym and that was really the mother load for me and my business partner Michael Stanwyck is my he's he and I are cofounders of the challenge he was my head coach at CF LA and we were searching for this answer and we knew it was not just an exercise so we built this whole life challenge around a holistic approach which is food and stretching and mobility and clarity of mind gratitude reflection on how you're doing and we put it together in a way that builds community so we kind of stumbled upon this format and grew it from 150 in the first challenge to we had 23,000 people around the world do the one in January which is always our biggest of the year so um that's really it yeah the question is me venturing into the health and wellness industry um I mean let me just say I think early on being a kid I realized the direct correlation between physical fitness or at least moving my body and how that helped more my mental state or the ability to almost relax or calm down I played a lot of sports throughout my younger years all the way through high school into college I was a big gym rat but I'd never really touched upon yoga but I started working for a little company called Lululemon at one point at the time they they allowed their employees to take any form of physical fitness go into the physical fitness world as long as you wore their apparel you could take the class for free so I've ventured into so many things I'd never thought I would touch and this is right after I graduated from UCLA and I basically tried to yoga class and yeah I fell in love with yoga and I never really thought I would be able to share it or teach it that wasn't really the idea but um I did realize that there was this strong connection between mind body and and how I was always so physically active but I realized I needed to be physically active too I think be able to handle what's going on up here and I think that goes for most human beings in general once you start to realize that connection things start to go in a good direction but the ability to actually share what what I'm able to practice and teach really came from the company that I'm fortunate enough to work for yoga glow they're really bringing I think yoga to the masses in a way that some people are in remote areas or can't really get to a public yoga class we're able to reach out to them at least be with them in their home and provide some sorts of clarity serenity on all the things that I think we're all looking for so I don't know I guess I would say I just stumbled into the health and wellness realm I didn't really intend upon it wasn't something that I was so keen on getting to you but I feel very fortunate and blessed to be able to actually be a part of it in some some tiny little way so that's it in a nutshell yeah thank you and like dice I also am someone who stumbled into actually fell I crashed on my skis in Argentina had this horrible injury that I was recovering for seven months crushed my leg had all these surgeries and so yeah I'd like many people who find yoga it's because of an injury you know you never seek health and wellness until you don't have it which is something parsley knows about so anyways yeah so I came back and was I was in Jackson Hole you know being sort of a ski bum for a couple years after grad school actually did study engineering which is not what so now I say I'm in I'm in the business of renewable energy but in the human form so it's all come full circle but yeah so anyways we I was recovering from this ski accident and I was doing a ton of yoga I had always done tons of sports in college in high school I was an athlete skier lacrosse swimmer rower and I've never been in better shape than when I was doing eight to ten yoga classes a week I can say that fully and I've you know been in the gym in the weight room and all this so I was just floored by not just the physical but also the mental conditioning that you get from the practice of yoga and then it goes into the whole whole life challenge thing like then you start you you're in this vein of wellness and all of a sudden you're starting to make better decisions about what you eat because you don't want to have a hamburger in your belly when you're in yoga class doing a handstand and then all of a sudden you're you know speaking a little kinder to people and you're making better choices and in terms of every life decision so yoga is one of those things that just permeates your whole life and all of a sudden you're in it like you don't even mean to you it's like sneaking a form of exercise like you don't mean to yeah you don't know you're thinking oh I'm gonna go stretch and like oh you kind of get your butt kicked so yeah I am also extremely grateful for falling into yoga quite literally and in the path that it's taken us on we started the yoga show you know as a Content carrot for a larger investment for a different company all together and then so many people were loving it we spun it out into its own business it was like on the top 10 podcasts in iTunes in 2006 up there with like and you know people were consuming it ravenously writing in saying like why what are you doing you're putting an hour yoga show filmed in nature and HD online and you're giving it away for free like this is too good to be true and of course it was but and so people were consuming it ravenously they were like well we don't want to miss one I'm doing yoga every day now because of the show and like what's going on I'm losing all this weight or I didn't getting over this depression or so the letters that we're pouring in were so moving and that we couldn't turn it off when like the larger investment that we made it for was turned off and so we spun it out didn't did the freemium thing before Pandora went to bend or o1 and like we didn't know if anyone was gonna pay for content online so it's been this like complete evolution from the wild because we're in Jackson Hole so we're doing it all from a media vacuum which has been interesting but ya know it's it's been a wild ride during this time when the Internet's sort of taking over television to stumble into it as an outsider I feel really blessed but most of all it's assemble into yoga as an outsider and now be an insider and like realize it's changed my whole life and be so grateful for the people that it's put me in contact with so yeah that's how it happened it's pretty wild thank you my name is Jeff ogler I'm the medical director of parsley health here in Los Angeles and thank you for having us here this is a lot of fun it's great to come out and talk about what we're doing and to share it with people I think I have an interesting answer for you interesting in that I feel like even as a physician trained in an allopathic conventional manner an MD I also stumbled into health and wellness and after practicing medicine for more than a decade and what I mean by that is I think you've all heard this I think it's probably becoming a bit of a cliche but my opinion and I'm not alone here is that we don't really have a disease we don't really have a health care system in our country we have more of a disease management system in our country and quite frankly it doesn't really even do a good job of managing disease and so I had been practicing as a physician initially I chose to be a physician because I started in engineering which is something that many of you might be able to relate to and I would really loved the science and the math and as I started to study more of this I started to realize that the application that I wanted to was in the human form I wanted to solve problems in with people so I went into medicine and that's where I spent my attention for the first decade or so which is finding disease and trying to fix that rather than focusing on health and wellness and so quite honestly I can say looking back now it's very ironic that I wasn't trained really nor did I really think in terms of keeping people healthy I was looking for disease and then trying to get them back to hell but really that horse was already sort of out of the barn so moving into what we do now at parsley health you may be familiar with some of the terms functional medicine integrative medicine holistic we don't necessarily attach or identify ourselves in any of those one ways but that is the line that we're taking and the reason we don't attach to it is because we really feel like we take the best of everything we have the science training to look out there amongst all the different health modalities and really take the best and incorporate them in a personalized way for the individual and I got to that by really realizing after a decade in medicine I wasn't taking really good care of myself and I was teaching at USC I was teaching doctors to be doctors and as I started to take better care of myself I started asking more questions about what I was eating and how I was sleeping and of course reducing stress and exercising and as I started to translate that into teaching my physicians and training to do that with their patients they were looking at me like deer in the headlight you need you know I don't have time to talk about that I just need to diagnose prescribe get to the next room and so I realized that I could I didn't fit into that model anymore and luckily at that time partially health was coming up and now I get to practice medicine and health in the way that fits for me a lot better thanks cool thanks very much yeah having us so yeah I think my story if there's one thing which kind of pulls it all together I think this idea of like demystifying something so probably starting back in my school days University you guys say school I had this real passion to kind of study business psychology so the psychology of organizations and how they work at the same time was quite rooted in this idea of training and people was like numbers and that didn't really interest me but there's huge idea of like well in this and getting more from yourself work kind of came across that quite a lot its idea of mindfulness which doesn't have to be this religious thing it can be this practical thing which anyone can do that kind of was getting quite a lot of traction around there in the literature and loads and loads of papers coming about it the same time I was like super stressed out like exam season was coming along you guys couldn't finals like a party were later it's a pretty stressful time so I went and saw this therapist part of the university offering and kind of he suggested I'd take up meditation and give this thing a try and I was amazed at like how firsts how quickly like how practical this thing was you can read a book on it and you don't have to go off to a monastery in Asia and burn incense and wear robes like it's something you can do in your dorm room with friends and I think like wow like this thing's really powerful was thinking turning around Eurasian put stress anxiety performance all that kind of stuff so that was that so I kind of finished off my my education did my Master's fussing meditating and then I kind of found headspace and again like headspace is got this really interesting mission and though people probably familiar with it but we had this mission to demystify meditation again we have we have our co-founder Andy who spent 10 years trains become a monk and brought it back to rest and in London and had this clinic where he would see people 1 and 1 and teach them mindfulness exercises and I can connect came across has been a few years ago when we were quite small back in London and like this this mission of demystifying this thing like with the work stuff at university I was interested in like demystifying work how it doesn't have to be this thing where you're tied to a desk for eight hours a day you can do it anywhere you want like looking at things like employee well-being were really important so that was kind of like the demystifying of work piece but then headspace came along it's like well he's guys to try and demystify this really really old thing which is rooted in all of this teaching and these trainings and like bringing it so like a modern way of thinking what a modern way of life so those two kind of things came together and I joined headspace back in London a few years ago when we were quite small and yeah that for me is just being part of that mission was yeah just a huge part of how I kind of well my practice in particular kind of yeah looking after the mind and seeing is this everyday thing which doesn't have to be this really religious thing I think that's really important way of looking at it so yeah that's kind of my journey from education to to work and it's funny being here actually we used to be one block from here around the corner walk past this place all the time had office and the big time so yeah don't worry but yeah we moved a couple years ago but yeah that's my journey now I'm working in learning development and before this my role was culture manager so in terms of behaviour and the culture long ization how do you kind of build a place which fits your brand which takes well being really seriously rich encourages your employees to meditate and take good breaks and look after their minds at work yeah that's kind of how I got here thank y'all so much I found it so interesting that we often think of health as physical and everyone's touching upon the spiritual psychological I mean three of y'all have psychology degrees so I think that's very interesting so thank you so much next question so we are talking about the intersection of Technology and wellness so we do want to dive into that so how have you seen technology impact the wellness space in a positive way and then on the opposite have you seen negative impacts from technology on the Wellness field so I can just go right back down the line you know we wouldn't have a business without technology we wouldn't have a business without Facebook or without Google or without you know the interaction of community or the building of community online has been such a powerful tool the hard part the interesting part for us was was how to do that effectively so that you didn't so that it was a valuable space to spend time in and it wasn't just another recreation of Facebook or you know a place that people already were so I'm you know forever indebted to the technology for my whole life I mean it's I'm so grateful that that life has brought me here I can work out of out of the comfort of my home and you know communicate with 20,000 people at a time doing the whole life challenge and they can interact with me you know they can interact with the game they can score themselves they can do things that they wouldn't be allowed I think one of the challenges for me are around health and mindfulness and and technology is this insatiable need for people to think they think they need more data they need more information and I and I think that without the consciousness like one of the things that we don't do in the whole life challenge we don't partner we've never partnered with Fitbit or connected and an automatic step tracker or a habit tracker we want people to actually have to do it manually we want people to be conscious we want people to be aware of what they're doing so that they're actually making choices about the way they spend their time and they're aware of how they spend their time if it's to automatic it's it's just easy to lose track up I've done it myself I mean I've experimented with every fitness tracker known to man I actually love fitness trackers but when I don't when I have the when I get all this data it takes time to actually go in and look at the data and then what data do you look at and what's important and what you know how do you not get lost in that so you know really for all for whole life challenge its it's not anti data it's be aware of what you're doing and if the data supports what you're you know if if it supports you to have a goal of walking 15,000 steps in a day and it gets you moving fantastic don't just shoot for 15,000 steps because you because that's what Fitbit tells you what to do so technology and positives and possible rooms for improvement yes room for improvement well I'm working for yo Glo I mean I touched upon already with just my brief intro but I mean one of the positives is it's really brought I think just health and wellness to the masses or at least to people that are looking to improve upon themselves yeah I think it's it's a wonderful way also to create community or I mean Connolly and he was saying was being able to globalize but being able to connect with people around the globe that are doing maybe the same things as you are thinking the same way as you and so I think technology in general is just helping us – I'm gonna bridge the gap between people that seem so far away it's really bringing a global community together negative aspects I mean I don't want to say it's necessarily negative but I think as cliche as it may sound the one thing that I think you hear a lot in yoga is this this idea of being in the now or or being in the present moment and I feel like at times with technology because you may have a Fitbit tracker or something that's tracking your steps or you have a goal that you're looking for you tend to either way on the side of the past or the future and you're always kind of going back and forth between the two which is normal and it should happen that's how you can assess a situation and move forward or make changes as needed but oftentimes we forget that I mean again it's cliche but everything you have everything you need is right here right now and if you can sometimes put the phone down or put even yoga on a town or whatever maybe you can I mean you can realize that yeah yeah don't say that sorry sorry I think all I'm saying is it sometimes technically yeah yeah technology could take us out of the moment and you start to realize that a lot of times the the the most important thing is to realize that the things that you do along the way to your goal those are what matter more that's kind of a gift the ability to see how you actually got somewhere versus where you're trying to go or even where you've been but just being there now ya know and I you know agree with everything you said and I don't want to repeat but that's exactly right it does take you out of the moment I do think like it's good in that you're able to put your art form which whether it's yoga or whatever CrossFit into the world and find your people lovely love that you know I have people from the Netherlands that I'm friends with now that I wouldn't be because of yeah without yoga today or all over the world but yeah the the drawback I and I don't know if it's a drawback I think it's just we're in a conversation right now you know this is not something black and white like good or bad we're in the gray right now like with how to manage the mnsure everyone saw Anderson Cooper on 60 minutes and doing the cell phone tests he's hooked up and he's literally giving off his brain is giving off the same chemicals that you get from cocaine but you know checking his phone you know it's an addiction people are device addicted you get that little hip hit of like dopamine when you get a like on your Instagram and instagrams like withholding likes so that they come in in bulk now you know all these things it's like tech companies are intentionally designing these things to be addictive and as humans it's like we have to decide okay well and as as creators of Technology we have to decide well what is let's have that conversation and let's decide what is in the best interest it's like you know the whole GMO debate it's like yeah well we can solve vitamin A deficiency xand populations by inserting some vitamin A and rice but think then what are the concepts you know it's like there's good and there's bad and and we're in the dialogue and I'm sure we'll look back on this time is like wow this is you know the time then that they were scrambling to figure it out culturally but I like to be an optimist and think that technology really does solve problems and in general our lives will be better for it so yeah I guess I'm ambiguous on this but I agree with what you said agree with with most if not all of it we've always had technology from you know the beginning of man fire is a technology and we will always have technology to a certain degree and we are evolving with our technology and it is really interesting how quickly we're evolving with our technology you know the differences between generations that we actually have to split generations into different generations because things are moving and changing and adapting so quickly as an example of that technology you know I think that the crisis that we started to see in terms of obesity and diabetes and increase our disease and things like that probably starting around the 80s because of the food industry which is a technology and certainly food industry made things Surt a lot more convenient for us but at what cost and so I think that through education we're starting to reverse some of those things so those are some of the things that I think where technology and we're probably not talking about the technology that we're used to talking about in this room but that's where I think some of the negatives have been positives like Andy said you know part of what we do at parsley Health is in addition of course to seeing patients we are able to communicate with them through technology we actually don't even have a phone line because we do all of our communications through a secure portal where patients can ask a question and get an answer within 24 hours and we have somebody's scanning it to make sure if there's an emergency that gets addressed immediately we're a 21st century practice where I don't think a lot of doctors are utilizing this fully but we can do telemedicine so it doesn't really matter where your office is located anymore I'd spoke with a patient today who's in Florida so that technology wasn't available we do blogs and offer patients information on a regular basis that way that wasn't available to us five ten years ago at least in the way that it is now talking a little so that's all wonderful stuff and we we integrate technology into our decision-making processes by having people we tip we typically order a lot more labs that we use as biomarkers because we have the technology you know has a tendency to lag way behind other technologies and so in many ways the typical doctor out there is probably way behind in terms of the technology that's available of diagnosing problems special tests and most doctors and I say this intelligently because five years ago I was most doctors and what I was teaching doctors was not the cutting-edge stuff that we're doing now but we have to learn how to integrate that technology to understand it and explain it to people but we're utilizing a lot of those things now because we're also looking at markers that that show what degree of healthier in not just looking for so the old the old way was sort of looking at markers for disease and if you have this lab value then you have this disease but we can look at more shades of gray now and keep people in the green rather than waiting until they're the yellow or the red and just more quickly I would also just add that I do have concerns about technology especially our attachment to it so and I think that this is somewhat pseudo generational I'm a little bit older than my wife for example and we use our phones completely different but there's only as you know five years seven years in there and the attachment to texting or I can't have a moment sometimes with my family without having to capture it and Instagram it or and that's concerning to me because I think I see so many people that are out on a hike and they stop and take a picture like I'll look at that later rather than actually taking in the beauty in the moment so it is again back to being present yeah I think this is a really interesting one I mean headspace started as an events company I'm quite a few years ago so at first we were kind of like just like this you know just speakers and then we use technology to really think about how we could scale our products and I mean the vision of headspace is to improve the health and happiness of the world and doing that through the online means we found that to be really powerful but also we were kind of aware of this irony of like offering guided meditations right through a phone it's a really common question like we get it from people and it comes in and yeah like it's a great question and we're aware of that irony at the same time like it's been covered here like it's all about that relationship with your phone your iPhone in your pocket or Android it's just a lump of glass and metal and plastic right but like how you engage with that product is entirely up to you and your mind that's where it starts so it's kind of our perspective on that and through mindfulness you can kind of I think you can learn to relax and engage with that product in a different way so it's actually quite interesting like every year we do a company retreat and for one day we take the team away from the office for a day and part of that is that everyone kind of gives their phones to me and to our team and I in the morning you kind of see these people were liking oh my god being on my phone for five years how much Jets have been a day without Instagram for three years and like you see this like reaction it's really really interesting and for some people it's really hard and kind of we get it but ends the day like wow like we have one last week as a whole day it was like twelve hours without their phone and I ended the day you're like wow like people within or I thought people when I wanted me saying kind my phone got kind of phone back and like no one really runs me I'll seem flow phone back people are like wow this is amazing like you know has this whole day we haven't had to take photos up upload things so I think in a way like testing ourselves to see if we can do that it's quite interesting even for us that you know a weekend morning or something that's going and putting your phone away so like there are positives and negatives I think in terms of skating something and if you have a phone and you're on the go and you want to train your mind and I go on the go basis without going off to a monastery somewhere or putting robes on you know it's one way with technology I think can be really beneficial and of course you can't get addicted to it you know I'm guilty of scrolling endlessly through Instagram and stuff but at one point you do like catch yourself you catch your mind going it's actually pretty useless this is pretty boring like it's nice like showing your friends you care about them but like it's not really showing you care about your friends and see you just taking a picture so like at some point like if you like you know I'm definitely an expert in this but like through training and looking how you do kind of your mind work so you can think actually this isn't a great use of your time and as you start engaging with that bit of glass and plastic but like it's kind of yeah I think you can starts with you I think and a big part of that and also just a reference like the at work piece because you know fully aware that as soon as you come in the this you've got emails coming in you've got slacks or whatever going on and like yeah like it's just a big part of kind of yeah startup life or business life whether that is but I think companies can start thinking about technology in different way and one of the thing we read do it has spaces that we block out kind of no meeting blocks in your days at one at ten o'clock and one at three o'clock we have these blocks when people don't have meetings but in those times people can go off and meditate if they want to so they can kind of disengage from technology if they want and just sit and meditate for 10-15 minutes and we never force it of course but you can go outside take a walk around the block get some fresh air but I think also companies really encouraging their employees to this engage with technology and seeing kind of better breaks and disengaging technology is actually a way of being more productive and engaging with the origin in different way so a few different levels to it there probably but it does ultimately start I think yeah with your mind say but it's so awesome I think we should start thinking about that at Google a really good idea just as a personal anecdote to a couple things y'all said with the whole life challenge I can say that there was a week where you could only check social media once a day and it was hard you know you we had to turn notifications off our phone it's hard yeah like that's I think that's part of it is like if you want to move towards a lifestyle like that where you're only checking it that way you've got to get the notifications off as otherwise you know something like don't look and then on the positive I wanted to say just an interesting story is that years ago I was in an international development field and was working in Afghanistan briefly and wanted to do yoga and I learned about yoga glow and actually did a bunch of DICE's classes in Afghanistan where there was like barely any internet connection and you know really enhanced my practice and so thinking on the positive side of technology like and how you said there's a global community I would have never had that without those kind of things so I think it is all about the balance and not letting it take over your life but using it to your advantage so just some anecdotes so you kind of already like Tom you were already kind of talking about this but this is a good segue with if you could and you can what one piece of advice would you give to audience members who want to improve their we're all well being one piece of the other way go for it so yeah this is me just speaking personally but definitely taking some time out of your day to look after your minds I think it starts with kind of just 10 minutes I mean through headspace you can do three-minute meditations you can do a one-minute meditation if you're really really busy but kind of making a priority just for sitting there and doing nothing I think as we're so busy we're running around from meeting to meeting or get into work or stuck in traffic whatever that is just blocking out that 10 minutes just to kind of have time for yourself I think and then the benefits I'm speaking personally again here but the benefits they can have on so many areas you are let your life sorry in terms of your relationship with stress or anxiety like there's no way I would have been up here on a panel two-year to three years ago if I would put a beam in the kitchen eating loads of food but anyway and I'm still not there but that relationship of how you relate to everyday things whether it's stress anxiety sport eating all of those things I think if that starts with just taking time for yourself yeah personally that's kind of I've seen huge benefit in that so just blocking out 10 minutes in your day in the morning maybe after you get up for you brush your teeth like personally you will so like anchoring it to like an everyday thing like it's got another common common question we get it's like I don't have the time to meditate I have 10 minutes in my day and you know it can sound you know some some people's like whoa 10 minutes doesn't sound very much when you're busy it is but finding that time to anchor it into your days maybe after you brush your teeth you know hopefully everyone brush their teeth here every day they don't it's cool but yeah like I can create there's something you do every day and then you say okay after I wash my teeth I'm gonna sit for 10 minutes before I go to work before I jump in the car and then it's done for the day and that can help you set up your your whole day in a different way and for some people it's an evening some people it's after lunch at work there's finding a room at work to do that in whatever their works for you wherever time works for you I think just find that time someone that's quiet somewhat private and just yeah finding 10 minutes for yourself I think is a good start thanks for that it's hard to come up with something that's more important than that I would set my off-the-cuff doctor answer is food Food Matters but I think because that's sort of probably more obvious to some of the people in the room I would say that maybe a more unique answer to me would be so I was talking a few minutes ago about technology and how all of us here can actually have a doctor in their home but I think many of us would probably think twice about having a doctor in their home do I really want a doctor on my screens in my home or at my place of work and that's what we're trying to do it parsley has really changed the relationship of people with a doctor and change what a doctor means I don't want to be somebody that comes to me when they're sick looking for a medication I want to have relationships with younger people that we start to talk about health and what tom was saying before about you know some of us feel like we don't have 10 minutes in a day to meditate and I would say if that's your mentality you've probably got a lot bigger problems than that and when I what I mean by that is you probably have a lifestyle that's not going to really work out so well for you in the long term and so having somebody that you trust whether it's a physician or a different type of provider that can help you look objectively at your life at an early stage when you think things are going well and maybe start to accumulate some data I agree with Andy that we don't want to necessarily don't really to always obsess about minor pieces of data but they can be helpful to kind of give us a reflection of if we are really as healthy as we think we are and to rethink some of our health habits yeah all in agreement and I have to say though the one thing that you should do is yoga obviously say this was sponsored by yogurt no well and I only say that because I now preach meditation as my number one thing but I would never have gotten there without yoga it actually took me eight years of yoga practice consistent yoga practice and the yoga show that I happen to be running as well to actually commit to a meditation practice and I think the only reason was that yoga is a moving meditation so as a monkey minded person that can't sit still and I like to ski and I'm always sore from doing something I needed that like segue into meditation with a physical practice and actually yoga was really designed just to prepare your body to sit for hours in meditation and so it truly is the precursor to meditation so if you can do both then that's the way to go and one more thing I want to say about meditation is I have started giving you know be gentle to yourself is the other piece of advice I guess that I have for everyone and and you know you don't have to be so hardcore and like so I've allowed myself to do the morning meditation in shavasana in my bed with a little pillow over my eyes and if I fall back asleep it's okay because I needed that extra sleep but I do my 20 minutes every morning from my pillow and that's fine it's I don't have to be a monk so you know start with that and then if you can work it in instead of going for the second cup of coffee in the afternoon when you start to drag go and do your second 20 minutes I mean or 10 or whatever is three you know but yeah Yoga leads to meditation which is the ultimate and be nice to yourself those are three pieces of advice I mean I'm basically gonna be saying the same thing I think that everybody said because they're all honest ways to really help yourself especially if you're I think working with a tech company but definitely just add on and I think being able to put down your technology is huge and it's so hard I know in my household specifically I have a four-year-old you watching someone that young be so attracted to technology so early on having to limit his use and even TV use it's pretty amazing it's made him much more when I used to give him more technology he honestly was so quick it's um I was instant gratification became more and more like a parent he would want to change things so quickly so often once I started to get him off of technology more and weaned him off of it he's a you actually pay attention to one thing became a whole lot better and that's just a four-year-old who is really I think in the more present moment than many of us are as adults so as adults if all you ever do is sit at a computer and you're on your phone and you're constantly having to stay connected with your business your emails all that I think although it may seem difficult you're like well I run my life this way I mean taking 30 minutes or if you have a rule of like stepping into your home and literally dropping it into a bucket for an hour or something that things like that will definitely help you out in the long run up here for sure I think on the more I think meditation the physical realm yoga asana and all that you know with yoga there's so many different realms there's so many different limbs or legs to it you could say and for most of us or visit highly physical culture or being really right so we really relate to our bodies our physical self the more we exercise or move typically the better we feel up top you start to realize that there's so many other elements that you can work on and what it all comes down to I think personally is you're just always working on self-improvement self-betterment self I mean self-awareness and realizing what things make you feel better also what things make you tick what things send you off the deep end and how you react to certain situations people things like that the more you start to ask those kinds of questions about yourself and not necessarily be attached to a good or bad outlook on yourself I think the better you're gonna be in the long run it'll make you a healthier person especially if you're around something is amazing it's technology that you guys are using all the time or you know yeah so I love this question because I've been asked it a lot and I and in developing a whole life challenge I have thought about it a lot because we have a much broader context you know we have seven daily habits as opposed to you know and they're all important all these answers have been fantastic and they're all important so the question then is well where do I start and how do I you know where do I go and and what I always tell people is I mean there are two things the best way to start is to walk through the door you're willing to walk through you know like if somebody came into my gym and all they wanted to talk about was being able to do 100 pushups I wouldn't start talking to him about food or meditation or because that's not the door that they're willing to walk through so if you're if you are considering you know getting started down the health path if you want to go down the meditation route that's the route you should take and that route kind of like what you were saying is is that leads to other things Yoga leads to meditation and might lead to push-ups um you know when you do enough chaturanga and fall on your face you know you you might need to strengthen your upper body um but you know take the path that you're willing to go through and and use that as your like Keystone like we we deal with habits a lot in the whole life challenge so use that as your keystone habit and if you're willing to address say sleep in your life great if you improve your sleep by 20 minutes a night or you you improve the quality of the or the lack of light in your bedroom fantastic and you start feeling a little bit better then maybe you'll have a little bit more energy with which to deal with some of the stress that you're feeling with your spouse and maybe when you start dealing with the stress that you're feeling with your spouse a little bit better maybe that leads to oh man now I got the energy to work out and I'm gonna actually get up in the morning and workout so it's kind of like a it's like a snowball effect and it's kind of a it's a more meta answer I don't have an answer for you you've got to be willing to find the thing and the door that you're willing to walk through and then walk through it these are all awesome answers I hope y'all are taking note um it's gonna be on video I realize I've never introduced myself at the beginning I'm Melissa Monahan I'm a recruiter here and our yoga representative and this talk is for yoga lurchy Falls and talks at so I realized you might be like actually I knew half the room but it's fun so I also teach the yoga here on I also teach yoga look at that plug it so one last question and then we have a couple minutes for audience questions if y'all have any so please take advantage of these experts back to the tech topic you know as you know Google's a tech company and there's lots of this out there so what would you like to see tech companies like Google or others do or invent to further innovate within the wellness space so this could be a product a campaign advocacy like anything that you think when we have these types of resources and platform is there anything that you would hope to see us do yeah I think broadly thinking about diversity and getting out there to as many people as we can and yeah helping all we haven't communities engaging with tech and hopefully finding some use for it I think practically some know I sometimes do you think about this because when you're bombarded by so much whether it's a thousand tabs and your browser or its apps like shouting at you like this idea of how card device has become smarter to like switch off is that like an out-of-office mode your phone goes on and then you put it for X hours a day and your phones just like no one can reach you and then your phone send something out ofhere saying actually tom is offline for two hours to get back to you lunchtime but like how come our devices how can software become smart so whether it's guys I should put a sign on th on this idea and but they can even a browser like kind of browser shut down all right the surprise or remind you every half an hour to take a minute to do something whether it's a minute of meditation or something like that just means popping up I think the pop-up thing can be really annoying the same time as a reminder to like break your habits in a day it's also quite interesting so I think yeah just something software wise is helping us that relationship would take a different way when Widing asked cadets I think one just asked letting it be owned and open more tabs and get more apt shouting at us like how can we actually let our devices kind of have controlled us for a bit I think all right Google I've been waiting for Google to ask me this question for a long time so I'm excited right now all right Google your mission should you choose to accept it as this so this is a very selfish a request but it is in the interest of all patients and that is what we have seen in technology on the physician side of things in the past ten years there's been a lot of incredible developments and a lot of them we can hand in the hold in the palm of our hand but what I have been completely underwhelmed with is the lack of significant benefit of electronic medical records so you know over a decade or so this was the big boom in health industry right and it's now a billion-dollar industry there's several there's too many to count scores of electronic medical record systems but what they are all really lacking is what we had hoped for in the first place really the original intent is clear clinical decision support systems help physicians take all the data that is available to them and make better decisions with their patients not for their patients and now we're seeing such a explosion of even more and more data genetics information is now available to us information regarding the microbiome in your gut I can go on and on and on about the different types of testing that we do in our more cutting-edge practice but the problem is with more data comes more complexity and there is no right answer for everybody what doctors typically use our guidelines this is the historic way that doctors operate and guidelines are basically based on population medicine large studies and so we need ways to integrate all of these things the cognitive load for physicians is too great there are too many factors to help people decide what are the best decision for themselves even whether it's diet or how to sleep or what kind of exercise to be doing so I think that the greatest revolution in the future moving forward will be AI and other technologies that help doctors take all this information and boil it down to best recommendations for individual patients so there you go I'm available to talk to you yeah that was amazing actually agree with all of that and I'm gonna take mine to way more entertaiment lean it's not nearly as critical for human survival but I'd love that no I am very as yoga today has always been sort of in the forefront of like production quality for you know bringing the user into an experience we shoot it in 4k and national parks and people are like it's not a green screen I'm like do you realize how much work that was it was not a green screen okay we're in with like flies buzzing around us and bison anyways the point is like I want to be able to use VR to give people in cities that aren't in these beautiful places the same experience because I can't describe to you what it's like to do a yoga show in front of the Tetons like to be on the show you're just like what is happening it's so amazing and like you know people just don't get enough connection in with the natural world now that I'm trying living in city I'm trying to live in LA and it's like it's different you know and so I want to give people that access to the natural world through VR I know they're already doing the are yoga in Korea I'm gonna go check it out yeah I know it's so cool and I think it's the more like animatronic and we want it to be like high production value and then we want the Google glass to be able to just flip from like I'm in the Tetons with them or I'm in a studio with a bunch of people and like after class be able to like make that connection face to face with people instead of oh I see 16 people are in this class with me but I don't see them like so I just I am so excited about VR and like that's what I'm geeking out on right now that's where I want Google that come help us out cool yeah I think what I want to say is Google keep doing what you're doing just being able to be up on a panel like this with other I think health professionals and wellness but well wellness professionals and be able to talk about it that's that's already something that you guys are amazing at and it's bringing I think more and more I guess bigger companies they're bigger conglomerates kind of coming together and cooperating with one another I think to just help other human beings out that's that's all I asked you guys keep doing you guys have so much power in the world I mean literally you know and it's such a cheesy line but with great power comes great responsibility and then sense it you know doing what you're doing which is trying to bring you know ease technology make things better for human beings around the world but I think it starts with the collaboration and then they're coming together and that that's huge so you guys are already doing it just keep keep doing it and realize the impact that you have on the world that's that's all I yeah that's all I got I think we could do more collaboration because like we can do this but like you know sometimes we're competitive with other tech companies and we're not necessarily always working together – yeah but it's good I like that it's good thinking have you guys ever seen the show black mirror don't do that I I mean I like cuz I cuz I my brain goes like I cannot wait for my car to be the last car that I ever drive like I'm I'm so excited about autonomous vehicles and you know driving I love driving it's not that I don't like driving but I want to do it when I go to a racetrack for fun I don't need to drive around town you know I can't wait to order up my car and my car shows up without a driver and takes me where I need to go and then I never has to park you can just be cruising around you know waiting to pick up the next person but black mirror holy crap like it just takes it the next extreme you know like chips and being able to delete your memory and your your people out of your life and kill people through technology it's just crazy so if you haven't watched it it's a great show too well maybe it's not a great show it's scary it's a it's a black it's a it's black but no seriously like I I agree 100% with what I said about being responsible you know like removing consciousness and removing awareness from the human making us less human through the use of technology would be a step in the wrong direction and so I think being Google being conscious of what they're developing and how they're developing it and then what's the you know we always have to think about rules when as a professional athlete you're always you you tend to win things when you're either the fastest or you're the best at skirting the rules just inside the barriers of the rules and I think one of the things with technology is well at least when when we do it is we have to think well how are people going to use this rule either in their favor or maybe not in their favor in order to score points or in order to you know get a better score and I think that's something too that is very important that technology companies especially ones with as much power as Google take you know are aware of unconscious of these are great it this is a great panel I'm just going to tell you so we are at one it does anyone have questions we have the really awesome all right hello okay let's see so I immediately forgot my question once I was put on so yeah there is kind of this paradox of wellness and technology being a thousand years old and then also it seems like it's really advancing really quickly right now and so there's a lot of experimentation being done with both and so with that we get fads which are initially a good idea but they might not have longevity what are some fads that you can't wait to see go away forever be they socially or different apps or products in your respective fields and then to be less cynical what are some things that you wish you saw more of or perhaps directions for your respective fields in the near term I can answer that first one I don't think they'll ever go away but they need to go away is this idea that a diet can solve your problems there's any one diet that's the right diet and that you can do it in four months or four weeks or eight weeks or like you'll do it and it'll be over and you'll achieve what you want to achieve and then you'll you can get on with your life it's just not true and it never will be true and it's a it's a it's a it's a like a layer of an onion you keep peeling it peeling it and keep working at it and keep working at it and it's a lifelong journey that you're on I'd love to see diets just die of quick death I don't know more your second question so I'll piggyback on that if you don't mind and I can pick on a couple of fads if you like but but one of the trends that I that would like to see go away is just what Andy was referring to is the overnight fixes the magic bullets the eight-minute abs because so as an example partially we do year-long memberships and we have a membership model because we don't believe that people get healthy with one magic visit to a super smart doctor we think that it's a process again a cheesy line but it it's a journey not an event and so that's what we're trying to do is that people get on the trolley with this thing that we're going to develop and like you said also before we're gonna pick that one door that you're willing to walk through and so many people were just like well I want to do this and I want to do this and I want to do this I want to get the most out of my first 30 days you will get the most out of your first 30 days when you were successful at the most important thing that's standing right in front of you I always tell people that you know if I give you one thing to do this month you have an 85 or so percent chance of successfully doing that but if I give you just two it drops to below 50% and if I give you three it's down to less than 15% as well so putting one foot in front of the other I think it's the best way to go and then the thing that I'd like to see kit.we us get rid of is gluten I'm just kidding but but I do bring up I do bring up gluten-free diets as an example of further educating ourselves because what I have seen with gluten is it's a fad it's a real thing I mean people have gluten sensitivities but in the science that we're using and incorporating is that not everybody is going to benefit from a gluten-free diet there is a certain percentage of people that will and what we've also learned now is that there's what we've suspected all along as physicians is that it might be gluten but it's probably some other things in wheat and now we can test for those things too so I bring it up as sort of a joke and certainly it's a real thing but it's not just that and there's other things that we need to be informing people about and I'd like to answer the second question one thing that I think is not going away and maybe I'm just an eternal optimist but I think it's mindfulness I think as we dive deeper into a I and tech and as our society leans harder on machine learning and all of this I thinking we're a freeing up our time so that we can act more productively I hope as what's happening and but and that we're we're going to be like moving more towards the mindfulness space and yoga and health and wellness and can human connection and I think people need it more and more as we are surrounded in like a media cloud we need to be able to separate and people are recognizing that and I feel really optimistic I know like you look at the younger generation and you're like how is that possible but I think there's going to be a tipping point with everybody and I'm I'm optimistic that that's gonna stick around I hope justice so I think I think it's wonderful that a technology and fitness convention plays the devil's advocate and says turn your phone off and find yourself you know and and I love that and I think all of you are wonderful and have made the most insightful important recommendations to anyone who is either at a high level or starting and entering a door and where to go I think on the exact opposite direction however I would love to have all six of you with me at all times in my phone constantly monitoring me and maybe bickering among yourselves good no no no not CrossFit today he needs a little head you know headstand breathing you know what eat this but I know you a glutton yesterday you're processing it you know so like when does that toy coming okay there's a price tag for everything I mean we we're willing that's super smart super smart AI I don't know about that it's not though it's an intuition and you are all very intuitive about your clients and about having a relationship in a way that AI will never have you can see it I'm tired or you can see it you need this or you can see it you know what just breathe just think for a minute you know and I think that is where we're going and that's all I absolutely agree and and you're right there are so many and that's sort of what I was speaking to before too is that there are so many individual technologies out there like headspace for example that are just wonderful like the yoga businesses that we have here but there's there's a lack of bringing those things together and I think that that is very cultural because everybody sort of is wanting their business to move forward but I do think that the the salvation of us all will be the best technology is working together and so I like you look forward to do those kind of collaborations and those products right like that anything else the other thing to keep jumping in but it just reminds me the other thing that and this is sort of the model that we have created and are trying to expand is that a there needs to be a paradigm shift there's a great book out there it's called the patient will see you now and it's written about how the patient needs to be the center rather than the old paternalistic doctor telling the patient what to do right it we're consultants but we also work with health coaches who are part of our team and I think ultimately the the the best team to work with a member or a patient in the future would be a fitness person a meditation person somebody that's doing the psychology somebody that's making sure that they are doing safe yoga practices interdisciplinary teams which is not a novel idea but it's not the norm and I think it's gonna need to be before we can really make progress something you just said you know I think that one of the things we try to teach is the patient being responsible I mean the patient's the CEO of the company the cut the CEO has to make the decisions they don't the CEO doesn't pass the buck to the board a good order the chief you might have a chief doctor you might have a chief there a trainer and a therapist and a yoga instructor but you make the decisions and I think very often we look to the experts as if they know more than we do and people forget that or maybe they never knew that their intuition could perhaps be more powerful than even every book that was ever written by any Harvard expert or anybody else like they'd have to be responsible for making that decision and sometimes it's the exact opposite of what everybody else is saying but if it's an alignment for for them that's the best answer so yeah and in yoga you are your greatest teacher so I think yeah listening to all the experts absorbing the information but being authentic to yourself and your gut is ultimately yeah the best guide I think that you've clued into this is a great assortment of people which is my thinking so what we'll do is once we've the video we'll send it out so you have it and then we'll include links to all of these their various companies and the you know social media and all of that but only check it once a day and so that you have the access and and can even reach out and ask additional questions anybody else have anything you want to ask of these folks any parting words that y'all want to share past the wisdom you've already shared what they let's go Vienna really is [Applause] you

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  1. Social media definitely drives people to actually hit the gym! Youtube is also a great platform to document progress.

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