Safe Gun Storage Saves Lives

Safe Gun Storage Saves Lives



legislators and gun safety advocates often focused on how guns are purchased but many lives could be saved especially among children if they look more at how they are stored in the last decade guns killed more than 14 thousand American children a startling number of those deaths were than a third were classified as suicides around 6% is accidents many more children were injured nearly everyone agrees the children should not be able to buy guns and no state lets them do so on their own when children die by suicide in this way it's a result of being able to get a hold of a gun that somebody else already obtained often legally how guns are stored matters a study that was just recently published in JAMA Pediatrics has found that even a modest increase in owners locking up their guns would pay off in an outsize drop in gun deaths that's the topic of this week's healthcare triage storing guns in a way that makes them inaccessible to children can reduce the number who died especially from suicide in 2010 researchers examined who owned the firearms used in youth suicide in cases where this could be determined three-quarters of the time the owner was a parent and for a further 7 percent it was another relative in a 2005 study published in JAMA researchers found that keeping guns locked and unloaded and keeping ammunition locked and separate from guns were significantly associated with lower levels of suicides and accidents among adolescents and gun owning households this held true for both handguns and long guns but such safety practices aren't common if a recent New York bill is signed into law it will make the state one of just a handful with comprehensive gun storage laws to protect children last year a study based on a national survey in 2015 found that about one in three of all households in the United States owned at least one gun of those households with both guns and children at home more than 20 percent reported destroying them both loaded and unlocked the least safe way an additional 50% stored them either loaded or unlocked this means that about 7% of all children in the United States lived in a house in which at least one gun was stored in an unsafe manner this was about twice the number reported in the previous national survey published in 2002 other research suggests that many people in gun owning households typically not the primary owner of the gun think they are stored safely when they're not critics of gun storage laws say homeowners need to be able to act quickly if a criminal tries to enter a home it's not easy to measure how often guns are used in self-defense when someone attempts to break in but research suggests it's a rare occurrence suicides are more common than self-defense shootings and along with accidents are more likely in children who have parents who abuse alcohol studies have also found that children living with an adult who misuses alcohol were more likely to live in a house with the gun store done safely and that heavy alcohol use was most common in those who store guns loaded and unlocked critics also say safe storage laws are hard to enforce because of privacy concerns as recent study from JAMA Pediatrics points out though even a moderate level of compliance can save many lives last year in the journal injury prevention researchers reported on the results of two community-based firearm safety events in Washington State they found the presenting people with information or offering to seldom trigger guards or lock boxes resulted in an increase of about fourteen percent of households that stored all guns locked and nine percent more that stored them unloaded in 2017 the Government Accountability Office reviewed 16 public or nonprofit programs that aim to improve the storage of guns it also reviewed studies of these programs it found that distributing locks led to more safely stored guns few of those evaluations were rigorous hello gun research as with most things related to guns is a politically divisive issue and for many years research funding has been very low relative to other major causes of death policy can make a difference too in 2004 study examined how laws that focused on the sale of guns affected the suicide rates of children compared with laws mandating safe storage of firearms they found that between 1976 and 2001 minimum age purchase laws and possession age laws had no effect on adolescent suicide rates laws preventing children's access to gun on the other hand were associated with significant reductions of suicides by guns even when reductions were not seen in suicides by other methods about two-thirds of gun deaths in the United States are suicides and given political stalemate over gun rights that's where it seems policymakers could be more productive safer storage of guns especially in households with children might make more of a difference than many legislative and advocacy efforts to get much more attention if you like this episode you might enjoy this 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  1. A special thanks to our patrons for making today's unmonetizable video possible! If you’d like to help support the channel make content, regardless of its ad potential, you can do so at patreon.com/Healthcaretriage.
    Some related videos for your continued watching:
    1. Why Won't the US Study Gun Deaths? https://youtu.be/IO-47nie7z8
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  2. Part of making the gun more work to purchase is so that the owner will then place an intrinsic value on the weapon, and therefore take better care of it.

    "I bought this on a whim on my drive home, I'll toss it in this drawer"
    Vs
    "This weapon took me 3 days to get, and I had to study to pass the test before I got it. I now know how to store it properly, and value being allowed to own this weapon. I'll lock it up safely so it isn't taken away"

  3. Children should be more self reliant and shoot their siblings before their siblings shoot them. Safety is for liberal PC snowflakes

  4. Instead of forcing this un enforceable idea without violating the 4th why not incentive it. Give a tax credit to those that take a safety class and or show that they have practiced safe storage techniques. There is not a single gun owner that wouldnt want to lower gun related deaths but ways in which we do so are in contention.

  5. Uh… the CDC has already referenced the use of guns in defensive situations. DGUs average anywhere from 500,000 to 3 million per year, and the type varies from presenting or announcing the presence of arms to actually drawing and firing. Safe storage is paramount to safety, but criminal use of firearms is much more common than suicide by firearm.

    Generally speaking, there’s about 20k suicides by firearm in the US. On the other hand, there were 1.8 million nonfatal violent victimization incidents in the US in 2010, of which about 25% happened at or near the victim’s home or in a friend’s home.

    Firearms should absolutely be kept out of the reach of children, and as soon as they are capable of comprehending instructions, they should be taught comprehensive gun safety for children (some version of STOP, KEEP AWAY, TELL AN ADULT that the NRA Eddie Eagle Gun Safe Program reaches). Any children coming into the home should learn the same. And firearms likely to be used should be minimized (i.e. my home has 2 pistols, a shotgun, and a rifle. The pistols are loaded and kept on the people likely to use them. The shotgun is loaded, locked in a closet, and upstairs in my bedroom where my son can’t get it. The rifle is unloaded and locked in a safe.). But unloading, locking, and separating the firearm from the ammunition will make it easier to be victimized at or near the home.

    SOURCES – CDC: https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3#15
    FBI and violent victimization: https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/vvcs9310.pdf#Page=7

  6. Not that I disagree with safely securing firearms but I think if a suicidal person who decides to kill their self is not going to change their mind because the gun is locked up. They’ll probably find alternative means to get the job done.

  7. One of my late husband's grandfathers kept and used guns. (He hunted in order to feed his family) He kept all of his guns locked in a secure gun cabinet. He stored ammunition for the guns separately and also locked up. The keys for the locks never left his person. Why all this security? If someone broke into his house, he was NOT going to be killed with his own guns. And yes, he lived somewhere where it was likely that someone would break in. I don't understand why so many gun owners now feel the need to have a loaded gun ready at all times.

  8. Storage laws can be pretty tough to make work, but yes, people need to store their gun in a way that it cannot be accessed by children, or unauthorized users. If you're going to have a handgun in the family home but don't want a lockbox, buy a good quality holster and keep it on you. You'll have it if you need it, and nobody who shouldn't have it will.

  9. I store mine locked but I do leave them loaded. But that said I have a thumb print lock on mine. Only I can open it.

  10. Stuff like this is why I roll my eyes when gun advocates bandy about their "buh muh law abiding/responsible gun owners!"

    Most gun owners seem barely able to take basic safety precautions. Why should I trust a "law abiding" gun owner? Heavy emphasis on the quotes.

  11. Trigger locks should just be a standard that comes with the gun. No excuse not to use it if it comes with the gun.

  12. All new guns come with a lock, and have for the 30 years or so I've been buying them. And even if you buy one used there's a pretty good chance it will have a lock with it, or you'll be offered one. Accessibility isn't the issue. Owner responsibility is. Unfortunately you can't legislate this in a way to PREVENT problems, as there is no way to enforce such a law. You can certainly punish someone who doesn't secure their weapon after the fact, though that doesn't help the person who was hurt/killed. This is precisely why the term "common sense gun law" will get you rolled eyes at best from gun people. We don't need laws for things we already do, and the people who need them don't care.

  13. If a kid kills themselves, its not the guns fault. It's the fault of the abuse.
    It's asinine to focus on the method of suicide and just gloss over the abuse.

  14. Talking about suicide by gun this way undermines both gun safety and suicide prevention. Suicide is a play with multiple acts and the gun doesn't show up until the end of the final scene. Preventing suicide starts before the gun is ever a consideration, so locking guns up has exactly nothing to do with preventing suicide. Look at the risk factors for suicidal ideation if you want to prevent suicide. There is so much that is so rotten and so preventable that our society idly permits, it shouldn't come as any surprise when someone decides to opt out.

  15. A locked gun is useless if you need it in an emergency. I've used my gun to protect my family once before. It's really up to the parents. You can tell if a kid is immature or responsible. Our parents taught us to respect their guns. We didn't touch them unless told to do so. If my kid isn't responsible enough to be around a gun in the home, I'll lock it up with a door lock, but I won't put one on my gun. We're alive today, because my gun was readily available when I needed it. I disagree with your opinions here, but I still love the channel and respect your right to hold whatever opinions you choose. Keep up the good work.

    Aftermarket electronic lock with a ring or something would be an idea I'd be into though. Just not if required to be built into guns by law.

  16. if you want to know what locks to buy check out bosniannill and lockpicking lawyer
    they have a few videos on gunlocks and how safe or not they are

  17. While I agree with safe gun storage, making the assumption that if 100% of guns were somehow kept out of the reach of children that it would have a dramatic effect on suicide rates is a false equivalency. People will find alternative methods of suicide. No guns in Japan(18.5) but they have a crazy high suicide rate compared to U.S. (10.5).

  18. Safe gun storage saves lives, but that doesn't necessarily mean that safe gun laws will lead to safer gun storage. As noted, most people who poorly store their guns are also likely to misuse alcohol. That sort of indicates that there's a lot of deeper issues. Sure, one solution might be stricter gun storage laws, and another issue might be stricter alcohol laws. But we know that laws don't necessarily mean people will comply.

    Of course, I'm all for safe gun storage. Here in Canada, it's pretty strict, and there's definitely nothing like concealed carry. But the results aren't purely from laws, it's from societal values. Likewise, it seems clear that it's not just the storage of guns, it's other factors such as alcoholism and I'm sure there's a correlation between socio-economic status as well.

  19. We just need better education and you are doing an outstanding job starting the wave. I appreciate every video you unleash.

  20. The fact is, most Americans believe that they need to be able to start blazing away at a moment's notice.

  21. I am so glad that my personal feelings about gun safety line up with the research. I do not own any firearms (one day I will get my sks…) but I have long decided that any I own will be stored unloaded and locked with the ammo locked separately and also would prefer the keys being in the custody of different people (myself and my wife). The goal being that any actual uses of a firearm require discussion and/or considerable though (since there's a level of trust between us).

    I'm not worried about home defense. That's the job of the big scary blade; you don't need to kill the invader, just scare them.

  22. BUT guns don't kill people, they protect us from other people with smaller guns….
    On a more serious note, I live in a shady neighborhood. The whole purpose of having it is self defense against intruder. Not keeping it loaded and locking it negates the purpose of even having it. A more practical solution is to teach child/teenagers how to handle to a gun. Teach them to respect it as a tool and not to treat it like a toy. I guess that won't prevent a suicide but I have friends and family who trained how to handle a weapon since around age 7 or 8. None of them have accidentally shot themselves or someone else.

  23. One note – the revolver pictured at 0:39 is NOT (necessarily) locked safely! For a revolver, the cable lock should run through the barrel with the cylinder (the rotating bit that holds the rounds) open (swung out to the side) for most revolvers. For many revolvers, putting it through one chamber (one of the places in the cylinder that can hold a round,) could (depending on the design of the revolver) still allow a different chamber to be lined up with the barrel, and be fireable. (For some revolvers, especially revolvers where there is a "plate" in front of the cylinder so that you cannot see in to any of the chambers when it is closed, the pictured method is safe. But I do not know for the specific model pictured, and it doesn't appear to have the plate in front. It is possible that the pictured revolver could be fired with that cable lock in place!)

    Any cable lock should be placed such that it is physically impossible for ANY round to be able to go from wherever the rounds are stored (cylinder, internal magazine, manually loaded, detachable magazine) in to the barrel. The shotgun shown next is a good example – the cable prevents the action (the bit to the left of the cable lock where the firing pin is) from closing (shutting, thus coming in to contact with a shell in place in the barrel.)

  24. In the first photo of the revolver you can still fire the gun. so it would not stop someone from Committing suicide

  25. Honestly, will never understand why people need guns it's so strange of a concept. But if America is going to go wild witgmh guns, at least regulate them enough so they stop spilling into Canada and Central/South America, thx

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